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Olivier Guillion
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About Gold Sound Database Project
« on: May 31st, 2002, 2:20pm » |
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Historical background
In Digital output mode, our programs need a sound database to be loaded in order to render the instruments that are used in a music piece.
This sound database consists of a digital recording of each possible instrument. Overall sound quality is more or less proportional to sound database file size.
The better quality for a given sound - the more space it takes.
Until now, we had to do a compromise between quality and size. It resulted in three different sound databases :
GMMPBase : very short sound database, low quality (but short enough to be downloaded)
GMWEBase : medium sound database, better quality (can still be downloaded)
GMSEBase : super-extended sound database, even better quality (but short enough to be used by very old computers with low memory resources, and can still be downloaded using hi-speed modems or DSL).
Because computer power, memory and Hard Disk capacity go growing, the limitations for the size of sound databases in 1995 do not apply anymore nowadays.
It becomes now possible to think about a "Gold" database, only oriented to sound quality, without any constraint of size.
The Gold Sound Database
More and more people use Melody/Harmony for public performance, or export their pieces in digital format in order to burn a CD, or simply expect the best possible sound quality. Even the current Super-extended database sounds are packed and truncated in order to save space.
It already provides great results, but it could become far better with a new step in sound database quality.
Because of its size, the Gold sound database could only be available on a separate CD-ROM, and we be sold as a separate product, at a price below $50.
But in order to build a very large sound database that includes a wide set of good sounds, we need... good sounds. 
In fact we need the material that enables to build an instrument, i.e. well-recorded digital samples of the instrument, playing a single note at different pitches, without any vibrato/tremolo effect or background noise.
The Gold Sound Database project would be a contributive project. If you consider you are able to provide such a material for helping us to build a sound, then you can submit it.
All contributors whose sound(s) finally take part to the Gold Sound Database will receive a free CD-ROM of the next Gold Sound database version.
We are waiting for your comments about this project,
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Re: About Gold Sound Database Project
« Reply #1 on: May 31st, 2002, 2:30pm » |
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To put it short :
An Absolutely Idea.
It you want contributions of sounds, could you please specify which instruments you need the most ?
Regards from Erling
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Re: About Gold Sound Database Project
« Reply #2 on: May 31st, 2002, 3:32pm » |
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What a great idea!!! You already have one copy sold ahead of time as far as I'm concerned! 
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« Reply #3 on: May 31st, 2002, 3:38pm » |
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I think it's a GREAT idea too.
It'll be cool  if all users can contribute to this project.
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Laurier, you're not alone !!!
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Re: About Gold Sound Database Project
« Reply #4 on: May 31st, 2002, 4:20pm » |
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This is a great idea. I can't contribute any sounds but I will certainly buy the CD when it is ready!
all the best,
Esmeralda Weatherwax. 
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« Reply #5 on: May 31st, 2002, 5:40pm » |
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Are you sure you can't contribute 
You don't have a good guitar or electric guitar
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Re: About Gold Sound Database Project
« Reply #6 on: May 31st, 2002, 6:16pm » |
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The kind of instrument kind we need the most is all acoustic instruments (brass, reed, strings, orchestra instruments, ethnic).
What we need the less are :
- Drums (quite easy to get)
- Electronic instruments (can be recorded from any synthesizer or expander)
If anybody can record this kind of instrument in good conditions, I will post here an explanation about how to proceed.
Thanks !
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Re: About Gold Sound Database Project
« Reply #7 on: May 31st, 2002, 7:05pm » |
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An excellent idea.Below $50 ? You have another buyer.
I would like to contribute but unfortunately my microphone input is currently corrupted.If I fix it I will let you know.
I play the saxophone (badly) but probably well enough to give you the scales you would need.
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« Reply #8 on: Jun 1st, 2002, 1:13am » |
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I own 3 synthesisers but I still cry for more good sounds. I think you can mark me down for a CD.  Ah, if only every other software company was like Myriad.....
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« Reply #9 on: Jun 1st, 2002, 12:19pm » |
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Great idea! I could probably help with Renaissance lute, 4-course Renaissance guitar, concertina, folk fiddle (though there are alomst certain to be better fiddlers than me on your lists)
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« Reply #10 on: Jun 2nd, 2002, 12:15am » |
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I like the project but...
I really think that is no advantage to build from zero a soundbase, than then your customers must purchase. I use some GM sets of soundfonts with 150 mb or more that are free and very, very good. I really would apreciate the feature of import without limitations the formats that are in the web (soundfont, giga), and replace the soundbase of myriad with one of this. There is people that exclusively work to do a soundfont, and then they give it you for free. Myriad team must invert their time between all their products and a new soundbase. I find more reasonable improve the use of soundfonts soundbase or other formats. It will make the myriad products more open to the others work. Yes, yes, yes, i know you can use the soundfonts if you have a soundblaster, but without the advantages of the digital soundbase.
Well, my humble diffrent opinion, no want to offend to anyone.
luck
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Re: About Gold Sound Database Project
« Reply #11 on: Jun 2nd, 2002, 11:03am » |
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In the next few weeks, I'll try to record alto saxophone, concert flute, recorder, violin, ocarina and maybe clarinet.
I could also try with some drums but I still don't know what the result could be.
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« Reply #12 on: Jun 2nd, 2002, 8:28pm » |
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The new soundbase is an excellent idea. I'm wondering though, if the Myriad team could get the samples from the local music conservatory; the recording conditions would be optimal--high quality instruments, possibility of soundproof practice rooms. Also, it might be possible to get ensemble string samples--there's nothing better than ensemble violas, right?
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« Reply #13 on: Jun 3rd, 2002, 9:19am » |
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Why not? We have an excellent national concervatory in Toulouse...
The only problem could be... time! But when I have time, I could try to ask (don't hesitate to do the same if you know people in conservatories).
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« Reply #14 on: Jun 4th, 2002, 11:27pm » |
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I would be happy to add to the sound database but I do not know anything about recording and transmitting sounds, so I would need some instructions. I own and play a wide variety of recorders and folk flutes and whistles. I have been satisfied with the piano sounds in the existing soundbases since they are fine for the jazz/swing tunes I write for piano, but I have not been able to get the recorder sounds to work well for the Renaissance and Baroque music I play for this instrument.
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