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« Reply #15 on: Dec 16th, 2020, 6:41pm »
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www.robertosoggetti.com/Myriad-VS/NessunDorma.zip
www.robertosoggetti.com/Myriad-VS/Rob_ND.zip
 
please let me know if they are readable now, there may be some issue with the extensions...
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« Reply #16 on: Dec 16th, 2020, 6:48pm »
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Yes , they open correctly. The .myr file has 22 measures, the last 5 being empty.  
 
Did you create from scratch the 135 fragments, or are they based on some standard voice?
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« Reply #17 on: Dec 16th, 2020, 7:06pm »
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Don't remember exactly, I think it's a mixture of the voice I created from scratch, using the "real singer" procedure, and a preset. Basically editing all phonemes one by one, and choosing the ones that worked better. The majority should be my own...
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« Reply #18 on: Dec 17th, 2020, 7:02am »
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I pointed Myriad team to this topic
 
Just for your information, I'm forum administrator just to help fight spam, I'm not member of Myriad team.
On the forum, we are the Myriad family, enthusiast users who help others, and we send bugs and feature requests to Myriad team.
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« Reply #19 on: Dec 17th, 2020, 8:13pm »
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I have tried the parameter that corresponds to the cutoff frequency of the voice, but it seems to do nothing...
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« Reply #20 on: Dec 17th, 2020, 10:27pm »
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Hi  Robberto,    
and first ... many thanks for making your excellent voice available .  
 
for the  curve.. I set the 'treble' curve on the file as in the attachment, and it does, to my ears, alter the high frequencies .  
The change is most noticeable in the start of "principessa" .
The file was changed to a vs voice for upload. Change back to your Rob voice first.
If you hear no audible change .. we'll have to investigate.
 
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« Reply #21 on: Dec 17th, 2020, 10:33pm »
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Oh,  its also possible you were thinking Treble is a high CUT  filter .
There is a Bass curve which has the 'apparent' effect of reducing high frequencies.
 
I've used them commonly to give swell to notes or to correct the way a vowel can change when the sung note goes much higher.  
 
 
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« Reply #22 on: Dec 18th, 2020, 9:40am »
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thanks for your example David. What I need is some kind of lowpass filter (and I thought the resonator frequency was it) to allow the voice to become bright or darker, to the point of being barely audible, it greatly helps with phrasing. Don't want highs or lows to be cut or boosted...
but no matter how low I set the resonator frequency nothing changes in the sound, that's my point. Maybe these parameter curves only have an effect with default voices?
 
EDIT now I have tried again and actually some kind of change in the frequency response is there, just not the change I was expecting...
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« Reply #23 on: Dec 18th, 2020, 9:36pm »
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Hi again
 
What you could try is adding the band equalizer in the effects collection.
it would be abrupt perhaps.  It was apparently too demanding to have its changes available as  multiple curves.
But you can set the thing for a smooth change to or from a previous setting.
  You can paste the effect where you want it in the staff, say just before the softened words.  You have to paste again afterwards  with "stop" selected or just with default settings to restore the  previous state.  
 
 
Alternately use  bass curve boost and a volume curve reduction  to produce the effect of a high cut.  
 
 I have a vague memory I have used  that for a softening .
 
But even volume curves are effective for phrasing I think. The tone feels more subdued just because of the quietness?
 
Another thought occurs.  
The standard equalizer effect has volume out as well as filter strength/direction . You could experiment with boosting bass  and reducing volume till you had a reasonable softening effect. Apply as needed. There's the option for 'smooth' change to the next setting..  
 
 Still , its a pity there's not a curve for it.
 
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BTW I found some interesting effects with  the  resonator  frequency.  
 
By setting the 'treble' at about 60  you can set the resonator frequency  to  low  .. which gives an 'ooo' ish tone (  though louder,)
set to mid value it  increases the aaah of the tone,   high produces an 'eee'ish tone.  
 I tried it on staff, to make choir vowels out of an aaah choir.  
Not really the best.
 
However it all works by boosting not cutting.  
 
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