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RESOLVED: Problems with Fading Volume   Overload_Volume_levels.png
« on: Apr 14th, 2019, 7:55pm »
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Did the settings Score > Edit global digital effects exist before Myriad HQ?
 
I had never used it, so am now not sure what settings were used for my old scores.  
In this example, the master volume(s) seem low, yet there is overload.
 
If I reduce the volume of the singer, it is difficult to hear the lyrics.
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« Reply #1 on: Apr 14th, 2019, 8:22pm »
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Asegúrese de que no hay algunas dinámicas (p.ejp.) ffff ocultas.
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Re: Problems with Volume/Distortion  
« Reply #2 on: Apr 15th, 2019, 11:36am »
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Good thought, Oliveira, but no - there was one fff = 360% (but it was not the problem)
There is something very inconsistent happening here - sometimes the "Myriad theme" (Menu ? > About) is distorted, occasionally it is silent.    
 
Buen pensamiento, Oliveira, pero no - había un fff = 360% (pero no era el problema)  
Hay algo muy inconsistente sucediendo aquí-a veces el "tema Myriad" (Menú ? > Acerca de...) está distorsionado, ocasionalmente es silencioso.
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« Reply #3 on: Apr 15th, 2019, 12:23pm »
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Here is the same part of the song, after having saved it using the Beta edition.
 
This was loaded and played using 9.8.1e, with HQ enabled - the lyrics are audible and it plays without distortion.
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« Reply #4 on: Apr 15th, 2019, 6:00pm »
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on Apr 14th, 2019, 7:55pm, Tony Deff wrote:
Did the settings Score > Edit global digital effects exist before Myriad HQ?

 
 
Tony, my archives go back till HA 963i, that's 5.5 years ago.  
 
 
This EDIT function is present, and the obtained panel looks the same.  
 
I cannot say anything on the influence and value, since I did not really catch the point you raise here. Perhaps with a .myr example?
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Re: Problems with Volume/Distortion   Volume_test.myr
« Reply #5 on: Apr 28th, 2019, 5:01pm »
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on Apr 15th, 2019, 6:00pm, Andre_B wrote:
... I did not really catch the point you raise here. Perhaps with a .myr example?

The point is that I am perplexed, mystified, baffled, stumped, bamboozled by problems that seem to effect no-one else.  
I have not been able to use H.A. properly for many weeks - either the volume disappears or the sound is distorted.
 
I can modify some old scores, but the sound via new staves quickly disappears.  
 
In the attachment, there is  a staff extract from an old score that plays OK provided that it is not set to Pan = centre!
 
This explains why I can play the demo  "A Forgotten Sea" , but not "Temps de Cerises" - the first is orchestral, with pan settings left or right, the latter has Pan = centre.  
 
I have re-loaded H.A. 9.8 (the same problem exists in 9.9) and Gold Sound  - so is the problem a corrupted configuration file?
 
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« Reply #6 on: Apr 29th, 2019, 3:39am »
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I'm not sure if it existed before - I know that I've never had the issue you're describing. Perhaps something to suggest to developers?
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« Reply #7 on: Apr 30th, 2019, 11:00am »
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OK, apologies to H.A
 
It looks as though this may be a problem with the sound card.
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Re: Problems with Volume/Distortion  
« Reply #8 on: Apr 30th, 2019, 1:00pm »
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I hope you are right Tony,  I have been engaging brain and experimenting about this without much success.  
 
Good luck.    David.
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« Reply #9 on: May 1st, 2019, 1:04pm »
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So sorry to have muddled your brain!  I must send you some Paracetamol.
 
The problem was Sound Card User Fault     H.A. is completely innocent ! (please don't sue me for damages)
 
In Sound Card Control Panel, un-tick Surround Sound when using only stereo speakers, dummkopf!    
In this mode, mono signals were somehow cancelling out after the first few milliseconds!    
 
Many H.A. instruments faded after the first note - because they default to pan-centre (= mono) in the mixer.
 
What confused me for so long was that much orchestral music played fine (whether as .wav files or .myr)  
 
Then I found a .wav recording on my computer which also faded after the first note! (Al Caiola, The Lonely Rebel)
 
This had been released as a monophonic 45rpm in 1960 as the B-side of The Magnificent Seven.  
This latter was so popular that it had been re-released in stereo, and thus played perfectly!  
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